Body Double  SSP020

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Greg and i have a slight disagreement this week regarding what constitutes a stalker. Fyi dictionary dot com defines stalker as a person who pursues game prey or a person. Stealthily you will notice. In this definition there is no mention of any type of exemption from being labeled a stalker for having good intentions while stealthily pursuing someone. After listening to the podcast. You can decide if you are team greg or team karen but whatever you decide we are both confident that you will enjoy this week's episode of the scary spirits podcast body double. Ps i'm totally right. Email greg it's scary spirits. Podcast gmail.com and tell him. He's wrong cheers. Welcome to the scary spirits podcast. Please be advised that the presenters may use adult language and or discuss adult situations. His podcast is not intended for younger listeners. Or those that may be easily offended. So if you're ready let's go along. Hi i'm greg. Hi karen and welcome to the scary spirits. Podcast the podcast. That combines the two very different highly compatible worlds of scary films and alcoholic spirits. What could possibly go wrong. Indeed karen greg. How are you. I'm fabulous how are you. i'm okay. Consistency is good. So today's movie. I believe was was it was my choice. Wasn't it was your choice. Yes okay so the movie. We watched for. Today's episode was body double from nineteen eighty-four directed by brian depalma. Which is why we did it. Because it's his birthday is birthday is september eleventh so a few days after this episode comes out will be brian. Depalma's birthday. I'm sure he'll be thrilled. Is he still alive yes he is still alive. He was he's eighty years old. He's got some time left. I do have a cocktail as well. Well of course you. So the drink i've chosen for. This episode is the lago voyeur. Karen would you like to know how to make it. Would so i the ingredients. We're going to need three hole. Strawberries three whole grapes. Four basil leaves one teaspoon of sugar crushed ice and ice cubes kind of grapes. Did you use. I used concord grapes. What kind of grapes did you to use red grapes. Same same thing okay. So basically you put the strawberries grapes. Basil in sugar shaker and muddle it. It muddled pretty quickly at mind minded very surprised. At how bad shit. I modeled that shit like nobody's business. It good first time. I ever modeled and i killed it. Fill the shaker with crushed ice. Then you add the vodka says to add one and a half parts. I used one and a half ounces. How much does your use care. Same shake and strain into a rocks glass filled with ice. She would give our listener time to make his own or her own listener. Yes oh on. we're back yes. We are karen. I were just reminiscing about our excellent butter late. yes karen. Do you have a brief synopsis for this film. I do. But i don't think it's one hundred percent accurate. We'll see but after losing an acting role and his girlfriend. Jake scully finally catches a break. He gets offered a gig house sitting in the hollywood hills while peering through the beautiful homes telescope one night. East buys a gorgeous blonde dancing inner window but when he witnesses the girl's murder it leads scully through the netherworld world of the adult entertainment industry on a search for answers with porn actress holly body as his guide that was pretty close but she was not a blog.


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No she was not. That's what i said. It wasn't hundred percent accurate. She's definitely a brunette agreed for by deborah. Shelton dancing though. Well i don't know. But i like me some debris shell right now. Yes here's she's very pretty she was miss. Usa oh really does. She was like first runner up in the miss universe. Pageant back in the day but anyway i'd never heard of before this. Are we ready. Get into the film from my forget anything. Do we have any corrections though. What numbers this. This is episode twenty karen. I know that's that's a big deal right now that you knew that i did specialis for us where we're killing it. Twenty in all right. Are you reading into it. Let's go body double nineteen eighty-four by brian depalma. He wrote it or directed it. Think lola both yes he and another guy co wrote the screenplay something to say about that okay film opens and we have credits your favorite. Yes but there is a scene to watch or froggies fog yes. There is very wolves howling us palm trees. Yes and then we see a glittery. Vampire was what i call. I thought it was a punk rocker until he turned his head. He's in a casket. It's like a cut away. They're filming a movie right and the cameras painting down to the cemetery he's supposed to be under the earth in a casket yes and they zoom in on them and then we we see. Dennis franz played sipowicz hillstreet blues. He's he's the director of this horror film and apparently the punk rock vampire has claustrophobia. I wrote a panic attack. I didn't know what was happening. No so they pull him out. Walk him out of there and tell them to go home. Take a few days and then they set catches on fire. He's frozen in there though. He cannot move. That's how rick terrified he is. I'll claustrophobic. He is yet set just catches on fire. Everything goes to shit and he tells them to go home. Then we finish the credits and the see the actor leaving the studio at first. I didn't put that together. 'cause all the makeup was gone. I didn't know it was the same. So let me ask you right now before we get into it. Who does this guy reminds you of anybody. David soul from starsky and hutch. No have you ever seen this film before. Karen no i have not i have. I've seen it a few times. I rented it way way back in the day and probably had it for you know. I guess we had it for a night back in the day or do we have more like three nights so i watched it so for the last thirty or so years. I thought the guy who started his film was bill. Maher bill maher. Yes then that guy. Bill maher young maher. I guess but. I don't know what a young bill maher looks like. He does trust me. Okay he looks more like david. So vacant be body doubles who clever. So i'm serious. I didn't realize it wasn't bill maher until today when i watched it again i found out this. It's this other guy craig watson. Yeah not i never heard of him know. How did he do. Any probably didn't do much after this don't know anyway. He gets in his car. And i didn't realize it was the same person but after i realized that i see. He's getting off of work early because he had this episode correct and it took me a minute to put all that together so he's leaving work early. Yeah we'll get to the car later. I don't have it right here. Okay 'cause he just jumps in it. It's not in good shape either. But he goes to the tail. Oh though pup. Stand yup karen. You know anything about that hotdog stand now. I didn't live in southern california. But i'm sure it's like world famous or some shit think probably arrives at home way. He orders a ton of stuff. Okay like to hotdogs fries onion rings in two drinks and the guy says for ninety nine.


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And i know it was what year nine hundred eighty four but still it made me laugh. Pup was an iconic los angeles california hot dog stand actually shaped like a hot dog it was shaped like i don't in nineteen forty six. The small walkup stand as been noted as a prime example of novelty architecture. Apparently it's still there was cheap pizza and the day i probably still is. I guess hot dogs are but anyway. He's very excited. He's got his hot dogs in the car and he's driving her still open but somebody's preserved it in their front yard trying to preserve bring it back and restore it to its original state. Open it again. So jake arrives at home. And here's here's his wife is not as like. I thought it was his wife. Please put the food on the table. Because he's very excited because he's home early me on jake. Carroll signs is evening on a picture and i thought they were married. I thought it was like a wedding Apparently it wasn't they are married so it's his girlfriend his girlfriend. Yeah he goes through the apartment looking for this isn't good. You can just tell. It's not good laughing and giggling. Go bad but he has no clue sees the dogs a dumb ass so we ended up finding his wife with another dude in the bedroom door and the warrant song comes on that warrant that saying that what i saw red. Oh okay us what you're saying because he opens the door he saw red and close the door which is exactly what he does. They lock eyes and he closes the door and we see to natural bare can well. That's true. go start a tally. So we have to so far. You're going to need a calculator. There's not as much as wicker man. Ricker man yeah. Jake goes to the bar. Apparently he's quit drinking but he orders. Jack daniels meet. yes then. We know that because the bartender says. I thought you quit drinking he does. I didn't know what neat meant until i was in graduate. Laurie means no ice. Yeah i didn't know what it meant. Until i remember in graduate school. Someone explaining it to me than he and the bartender. Apparently they're friends. But have a little thing there you tell them to keep the glass filled and he doesn't fill your own. Glass puts the bottle in front of them. And then you know they talk and bartender offers him a place to stay. Which is nice because of that. Damn carol yeah ex. We see jake looking through a paper. Well they show him on in very uncomfortable couch. It's not you know it's a messy bachelor pad. It's an uncomfortable couch. He can't sleep. He goes to get at the market and then he's looking at casting notices the first one he goes to for some shakespeare thing. He doesn't seem to do well. The show a little bit of it then he goes to another casting. Call this where he runs into sam. I think he's run into sam multiple times already. He does go. Sam by think billy everywhere. He goes sam as there. But i didn't notice it at first at the first casting call. He recognizes a friend of his name. Billy i believe in billy introduces him to another guy named sam. Who is there as well. And after that he and sam keep showing up with the same casting calls. There are similar age. You know sam looks a little older. He's because he's a little more thinning hair. I think so then. We cut to a scene in the acting class. Because at one point jake tells billy is billy says hey. Seo or billy says hey. I'll see you at class. His class tonight like yeah so they're both taking acting classes together and he's upper on the stage and he's recalling a time when he was very afraid is a child playing hide and the instructor tries to get him to cry out for help but he can't do it. He's playing a game with his brothers called. Find the sardine your something which is basically hide-and-seek yes but this is showing where his claustrophobia comes from. He's hiding behind a freezer when he was a child from his brother's playing the frame. He's struggling. he can't even cry for help. he's like frozen. You keep saying i can't. The teacher keeps like yelling at. Yes you have to act cry for help. He says i can't. I'm afraid so then sam. Is there watching this. And he interrupts the lesson and kinda sticks. Jake kinda tells a teacher. His this is a brain fuck. Does this teach. is this a class. What mind fuck. yeah then. He grabs jake and takes them out of class and says this is. This is an exit as he's walking out to think. Oh i go back to the bar course s.


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That's where men go to do mainly things after acting class. Yes then we learned this. Sam says he is separated from his wife. Yuccas sam checked out the waitress right off the bat. Jake jake's he says aren't you married. Yeah and as where. I find out that jake is not married to carol right. We tells sam the whole story about catching her with another dude. He says her face was glowing thing. They have a conversation about that. How do you make face glow. I've never been able to make her face glow whatever and he says he keeps reliving it which makes sense. I mean he would absolutely so it turns out. Sam is house sitting at a place and he has to go out of town for a few weeks up to seattle for some actor. Shit any says. Hey how would you like to stay in their in house it while. I'm away since. Jake needs a place to stay. Jake thinks is really good news right well. Yeah he doesn't have to sleep on the uncomfortable couch in the messy bachelor pad next. We see the house built like a spaceship. That's what i say it's like a saucer flying saucer hype in the sky and you have to take a escalator. They were right escalator up to it right. Because they weren't walking they were riding up to it into it originally covered escalator. It is a spaceship house. But it's kind of weird because it's got windows all around it kind of looks like seattle space needle or something but very top but it's one room. There's the bedroom the bar. You'd never see anything but a bedroom and the bar but it doesn't seem like there's just. There's a bathroom or something or something. A kid cheerier in the center in the other part of the circle. I guess so salmon. Jake have a drink at the bar. Any tells them the most important thing is to water the plants. Yes and there's a lot of plants are a lot of plants. Then they toast to hollywood. Yes they're looking out windows. They have a few overlooking hollywood. There's this is in the hollywood hills houses and then same tells jake. There's one special feature of the house. Then they go to the telescope a hell of a telescope to apparently across the way in another house there. A girl who dances around in sheer negligee every night at around the same time. Which i'm just going to tell you is so ridiculous ball okay. Why herself people every night at the same time. She dances around by herself. And we see two more barbarous. She's brunette though this is where the is a. Yeah and we see your take some jewelry off and put it in a safe wall safe which is behind a mirror. And i made a note. The amazon x ray says didn't list anything except the people in each scene. It didn't listen you trivia or anything like it usually does it just list the actors in each scene and it lists the actor as deborah shelton. It looked like her. It didn't look like melanie griffith. It did look like we're getting ahead. So i thought that was interesting so i don't know if it was her or not but it says it was sam leaves. He has a plane to catch. She's gotta fly out to seattle or whatever later that night. Jake goes back to the telescope. He he's uncomfortable but he can't stop himself. I wrote he saw what i thought was a robber stealing from the safe but turns out. It wasn't a robber. Apparently it was like the girl's boyfriend husband whatever because they argue and you can kinda tell that she knows him and he slaps her around a little bit and leaves the. Did you know who that was when you saw it. Since she's this. This was your first time seeing. Yeah it's a guy took some money and he leaves and the woman cries okay. She had no idea who it was. No all right. He's in a gangster outfit. I wrote like he's wearing a hat and gloves dura. Yeah he's trying to keep his identity a secret from anyone who may be watching from across the way i know like that. Yes but he has a build and hair and everything is very similar to someone. We've already seen. That's all. I'll say i noticed it but i don't know if i noticed it because i've seen it before i didn't notice it. Okay now i thought it was a robbery. But you're right. She does seem familiar with him. And then he does smacker around so next day jake's agent calls says he's been trying to find him hasn't been able to hold him tells him that he has been fired from the vampire film.


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I think it's called vampire's kiss to was the name of the films. So jacob happy. Yeah and he goes and confronts the director rubin who is dennis franz sipowicz and the director kicks off the set. Yeah he's escorted out so that just means he has nothing to do now. Bright is an unemployed actor. Yes he has nothing to keep him busy later. That night as jake is watering the plants he goes to the telescope to watch the woman dance again and she is and she is. She does have a tattoo on her ass right. Yeah you do see that comes up later but she does have to s and she's in a thong. I believe senator no she is. I don't think she is. it's pretty. She has like a belly band like a fancy necklace around her abdomen jewelry. Yeah jake sees a what appears to be a satellite dish. Welding on satellite dish on the property as well and jake sees that the man sees the girl dancing as well and stares at her. Yeah so so. They're both doing the same thing correct but there is an an anklet. That she's got simon's and i thought that was stolen in the scenes before but i guess it wasn't. I think he was taken money. Guy was so next scene we cut to the next day. Jake is at the farmer's market in his blue nineteen sixty seven camaro r. s convertible. Karen tape won't comment you figure that out. 'cause i couldn't tell what kind it was. It's a light blue car. It is cowed or blue. It's a sixty seven camaro rs convertible. What's the average retail of that car. Today average not not in great condition just average thirty eight thousand dollars. You're about a thousand dollars off. We're off really. It's twenty eight thousand four hundred dollars. I said thirty eight thousand. So i'm ten thousand dollars ten dollars your ten thousand dollars on it like your math better but i have to admit thousand okay. What could you buy that car. New for brands franken new right off the lot in nineteen sixty seven thirty two hundred your little high again. Two thousand five hundred and seventy dollars a lot. Closer relatively yeah well. You're you're closer to the high retail. I'd want the fan. I'll give you that. So the high retail value it. Today is forty thousand dollars. Well that's always. You always go for the high going to get the low retail on. I'm the cell way more cupcakes. At the bake sale bob getting the high end one so he jumps in his nineteen sixty seven camaro convertible with his groceries and starts driving back to the house as he's driving along he has to come to a stop it because a couple of farmers have lost their load in the road l. I thought they were banned. Scrapers that cleaning up. Whatever they lost their load and the road they did could be landscapers. It will look like bamboo or some shit. Had trimmed trees and jake is forced to stop and he happens right in front of the entrance to the house where the woman who dances lifts. Isn't that convenient. Because jake sees her. Come down her drive and through her gated drive in her mercedes crap. I good mercedes. That's all you needed right. She's got money. She does apparently so jacobs waiting there to go. And then he sees the man who was working on the satellite down the road. Yeah columbine creepy guy. Yeah in his north. Eighty two ford bronco new at note of nineteen ninety-two ford broncos worth the daycare. Average retail twenty thousand dollars. No it's an eighty two four bronco candidates not a sixty seven so hasn't reached quite reached classic status. I don't think thirteen thousand dollars now. Six thousand dollars okay. That is about the high retail so really that yeah six thousand two hundred twenty. Five is the high retail for an really. Yeah for an eighty two ford bronco. Something wrong with them are there must have been a shit ton of them. What do you think you could buy that for new sticker price so that car in nineteen eighty two about the same. It's pretty close What's it worth now.


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Wait high retail six thousand two hundred twenty five sixty five hundred actually nine thousand eight hundred ninety nine dollars so more. This is the first one. This is the first one this is dropped in value. But it's also probably the newest one who'd onto its though hasn't reached that classic status. I think there were a lot of those to you. Know i think they were just they were popular. So when was this nineteen eighty-four. I knew something was one of those. Yeah so jake. Watches as the girl driving the mercedes leaves and the guy in the bronco follows her and shake follows right behind and they all pull into a parking garage. Yeah she goes to valet. Yes and she drops her car off and then she goes to a payphone. Begins talking yeah. There's a line of payphones forum and she begins to talking to someone about being beat up by that guy previous night i think. She says he hit me again. And she makes arrangements to meet. Someone jake is at another payphone. A couple of tending. Yeah he's gonna be on the phone listening then. She hangs up and goes up the escalator. he follows her. she says she will meet whoever. It is at the beach motel and she'll wear something special special. Yeah she goes up. The escalator and the satellite repairman is there as well but he's following her. Jake is following her way. Too close railroad. Jake is following her pretty close. That's why next line any woman would notice would feel that. We're trained to be aware of our surroundings. And if someone was that close behind you you would. You would stop or something to make sure they want. He is right on her and every time she stops. He stops exactly. He's not being he's terrible oil or yeah. I made a note right here that the x. ray on amazon prime video says her name is gloria o. Well we don't find that out for a while now. But i call a gloria from now on all right and the satellite repair guys following as well my next line. So gloria goes into a lingerie store and jake watches through the window. Gloria goes to a changing room. She picks up some underwear off the tables play or whatever cat goes to the sales women and salesman gives her another pair of the same underwear right and she goes into a changing room to put on the underwear. She leaves the curtain open just enough so that jake can see in through the window foot and the girl working. The store notices jake and she calls security as she should says. I think we have a problem. So he's peeping again her. Then jake sees the satellite repair guy looking through the opposite window of the store. He doesn't have as good of you know. Probably not the security guy comes up and says can i help you. And he says now. I don't think so. And he runs to find the repair guy. Sound light repairman creepy guy. He all vague on she gon. Everybody's gone jake. Runs back and he's looking all around trying to find out where everybody went then he sees gloria in the elevator. One of those glass elevators yet as a glass elevator. Then he looks and sees the repairman running down the stairs. He's gonna like go to the bottom and when she gets out he's going to do something or whatever right. I'm sure that's what jake thanks. So jake runs. It gets on the elevator with gloria. Just yep just the two of them they go to the next floor in like fifteen people walking together like like. They just got done playing tennis. Looked like to me too it. It looked like to me too much of tennis players and then shake starts getting very claustrophobic again. Yeah they get pushed up against the back of the elevator because there's so many people and he starts sweat and he's very close to gloria as well but he's in a panic mode so yeah he's not enjoying it at all. Now he's not so then. The elevator stops at the next floor in the satellite repair guy standing there but there is no room in the elevator for him but he does smile. You does use marks. So did the satellite repair guy. Look familiar to you. Know okay. i'm not going to ruin it till the end. Then they go to the ground floor and everyone gets off the elevator. Gloria answer ticket to the valet then. She puts the bag with her own underwear. 'cause you still wearing a new ones right. Oh i thought she threw or new ones away. She puts the bag with her own underwear. In in the trash gotcha i.


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I didn't catch that. I thought she had a change of heart. Just threw away the underwear. I didn't realize she walked out of the store wearing it but that makes sure she did. Yeah no you don't think they let you on underwear and they don't let you try on underwear without underwear so that whole scene was not probably said. Yeah i'll take him. Can i just change into them right now. Probably what she said right. Well i guess store. i'm not sure i would. Well whatever. I would probably want to wash it. Mind i but i agree. So that's why they made the whole production of bringing out the box of clean underwear and handing her one. She didn't just take the one off the display correct. Yeah gotcha so. Jake walks up to the trash. Can he sees the bag with the underwear and is when i say bag. It's like a shopping. It's like a tiny yellow shopping bag right. That's a fancy bag that they would you know with handles. Uc's it there. He reaches in real quick grabs. The under puts his pocket when no one's looking creepy creepy. You know this dude. Is they try to make him out to be a nice guy. But this is not nice guy stuff. He's basically stalking this woman at this point but he has good intentions. Protect trying to protect her. He doesn't need her used underwear to protect her. You could use them to strangle her assailant. Okay okay as long as you're always thinking that would be in your utility belt along with my phone cords exactly so next. Jake follows her to a beach. House tonight tell. Yeah and i wrote. It must be a hotel. I was like okay. What's going on here so it's a beach hotel. It's a cool looking tonight's hotel. I really thought i would stay there now. I would too although. Yeah i probably would. I mean it's small and the only weird thing is you down. There's like side stairs and you go down everybody's patio but do you think all those patios or each one unit each floor as a separate unit. You don't think too units on every floor. Kind of feeling. I got originally. She walks all the way to the far end of when she goes to her room. Too far end walks in the sliding glass door. All right i guess then. I don't know if there i wouldn't want people that close style. Neither every patio faces the ocean in. It's like tears the beach it right on the beach and it's tiered so each one is up. I thought it was really cool. One kind of overlooks the one below. It actually right. Yeah a little bit. But it's built into the hill kinda this anyway. I thought it was cool. So jake followers were there and then she walks to her room. Apparently he walks down to the beach again. Not a good distance better as he doesn't look like he's ready for walking on the beach. He's got a corduroy jacket in his jacket. Zoot jacket whatever. So we see. Gloria sitting on the deck patio patio by the telephone. You see the telephone. They're sitting there waiting for call right then. Shake sees the couple in the room above gloria. Leave they'd take their suitcases neatly. Even the lady bitches about there's no elevator whatever should be an elevator there an older couple yes so he runs up there and stands on the balcony above glorious room and to see him run by if she was looking well well. She knows he's there at this point because they've already she's already like looked at him and made it known that she recognized following. This is solid the lingerie store right. She doesn't seem to be too concerned so glorious on the telephone and apparently whoever she was gonna meet. It's not coming to meter her dates. Not coming yes so you think it was. This is interesting so you think it was a date. She bought underwear to i mean. Do you buy special. Your friends know. So she's married. Yes do we know that. Yes not yet but we do. But we don't know that at this point so it could have been. Anyone could have been a date okay. But when she's talking on the phone she says you know he hit me again. I really need someone to talk to. It almost sounds like it's going to be a girlfriend. That's who normally you would call in that situation. She wears special for right right. she's not going to buy. She could not might but from experience. I would say no so. Gloria goes down to one. It's one of those beaches that have like changing tents on right. Let's lake circus tents to me where you can go in and change your clothes.


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She goes down there and as she's going down there didn't shake sees the satellite repair guy. Follow her to the beach from the other side of the building. The jake runs down the follower jake catches up to her says. Hey someone is following points following you. And she's like yeah. I know you you weird al that then. No but then. The satellite repair guy runs up and takes her purse and runs away. Jake runs after him. There's a chase on the beach. This hard to run loose sand. You know that's because they both were out of breath pretty quickly. They didn't go very far. But jake follows him into a tunnel like structure. Jake would've caught him if not for the and when he does that he kind of stops halfway in. He becomes very claustrophobic again. Guys like one of his attacks and he is like can't move paralyzed with fear Basically flattened against the wall. He's freaking out. And then the satellite repair guy dumps the purse and takes. What i thought was a credit card me too out of it and then he yells triumphant gale and runs away so jake manages to work his way to the purse. Yeah he's inching along struggling. Yeah like he's walking on a cliff or something right exactly to get to. The purse gets to the person starts puts her belongings back in the person finds her driver's license finds out. Her name is gloria yet has her name and address and it looked like it was a piece of paper. Did licenses are no. But we're are back then. I don't think they were paid. No i think they've always been laminated. I mean shit by kings island pass in nineteen eighty-four is laminated right. I just thought that was strange that it really looked like a piece of cardboard was a license had her picture and her name and address. But it didn't have height weight hair color all that. So i don't know but i think it was. Her license could've been a state. Id card. i guess. I don't know what could have been any. Id card now. That i think about it but whatever you decide state of california on it right. That's true but he's shaky and sweaty and he picks up her purse. Yes and then you hear click. Click click click click. Click make ya. Apparently she ran all across the beach in her heels. Just occurred to me just now. He's got serious sand shoes. Let me tell you. Or she took him off and then put them back on before she got back into concrete fact yes but anyway she runs in who we now know is gloria runs in and helps jake walkout and he tells her the guy took something. Yes he says. Check check the contents. He took something. Then gloria ask jake why. He's been following her. Did her husband hire him. She asked yeah did. Did my husband hire you. He says no. then they has used a kissy face. God this sequence house. Is he dreaming. I thought he went into like a tree. Answer something because it was quite passionate of just going to say that they went out wrote is. The camera is making me dizzy. Dizzy cameras around and around vinegar around them. Three hundred sixty degrees but they are like acting like they are. I mean in a in an adult film or something. They're going to get busy right there. I not tile on the right. i mean that's why i thought is he. Is he dreaming. And then he's going to snap out of it or what but no. That really happened. And then she gloria stops and says she can't do this not here she says and she runs through the top of the tunnel and he can't follow her now not sure. She knew that he couldn't follower. But but we know. I think she did cause as they got closer to the end she could see him like breathing and getting back to normal so i think she had an idea what was going on with him so next. We see jake back at the house practicing what he would say to gloria on the phone. Which how did he get her number. Don't know researchers. Maybe but her number wasn't on the light of seen it somewhere in there. Well you know. Karen we're back in nineteen eighty four. They had these things called phone books. Oh yeah and now. That does her name and address exactly so the book he can find her and almost everyone was in the book back in the day today anyway. He says something really crude on the phone but he's practicing calling her then he sees gloria arrive at home followed by police officer question.


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Mark i wrote right or security question mark. I don't know form but it looked very much like the same car that the dude who arrived there earlier that took the money was driving to me. I didn't see a cruiser. A police cruiser pulling after her. You know what i mean. No that's why. I thought maybe it was security. Like she lived in a gated community. Or i don't know it was weird. I thought so. Jake watches on the telescope. As he's watching sam calls to check in and to ask if there's any messages for him or anything he sees the big white dog. The germ the white german shepherd windows look into was the first time we see the dog. And she's having a drink so he gets off the phone with sam then. He sees center repair guy upstairs in glorious house stealing from her safe in. He has a large drill in his hand. I thought it was a gun. I didn't know it was. It was a drill. Is that to open the safe. I think so and the security guys gone and the police officer leaves after jake sees that. Oh my god. There's a guy upstairs. Jake calls gloria to warn her about demand. It rings a bunch of times. I'm surprised or machine didn't pick up. It did bring a lot. She was not in a hurry to answer the noun but she picks up the phone just as she does. Satellite repair guy comes up behind her wraps the cord around her neck. We can strangler and picks up off the ground by her neck right glorious somehow knocks the guy out by kicking him in the shin. Next line we'll check runs over so he doesn't call the police. He just runs over there just right and they fall onto the bed. Sheet chicks in the shan. He appears to be knocked out. There's lots of unconsciousness in this film. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But i'm mike. Did he hit his head on something. What's happening here. So jake runs over to the house. Loria the call nine one one. But she's struggling spin because of her neck than the satellite repair guy comes up behind her and sticks her in the back with drill before she can get the call made to nine one one although they you know they should know that where she lives now and everything so they should be sending someone regardless right. Did it always work that way. Or was that implemented later i might have been implemented later. I don't know could have been so. The guy tries to kill gloria with the drill but the cord is too short. This is a strange way to try to kill someone. He could have just re- strangled her could've but they tried to build a lot of suspense with this drill thing right. Yeah the co-ord- her in her. She's always like this with their hands up. Not trying to run away. She runs falls and she's unconscious laying there to get up the guy plugs. This drill back in to a spot closer to where she lands is she's unconscious just like he was and starts to driller. Yep by this time. Jake is broken into the house through heathrow something through the window. And he's downstairs being attacked by the dog and he sees the drill. Come down through the ceiling above him. Yeah that's pretty with loud. So this is where i said. This is the scene that you could classify whore because there's some bloody drill bit through the ceiling dripping blood so jake runs upstairs and has he runs upstairs. The killer runs out and then the police arrive in the police arrive. Jacobs questioned by detective. He is the only witness. The detective is smoking marlboro. And then he sees the panties hanging out of jake's pocket. Well he calls jake a paper pervert. Any explains that. The guy stole a keycard from her purse. Jake has been up front with the guy from the beginning. Tell him how he knew what was going on right now. He calls them a paper in a pervert and a low. We don't see that part right. I think he's being honest but he says he stole the key card from her purse. And that's how he got in the door. The detective asks jake why he was following her and then he sees the underwear in his pocket but he tells him that she threw it away and he took it. He's he's being truthful paintings. Never to and jake keep saying he's try. He's tried to save her. The detective says he's really interested in glorious husband. He starts asking jacob out the husband. But jake says he doesn't know you never met never met him and he says well is not going to hold you. Because he has witnesses that collaborate jake story. The detective also tells jake that gloria was very rich. She was and jake has to watch.


00:45:02 - 00:50:01

Gloria be dragged out in a body bag. The detective says anytime. He has a rich wife murdered. He always looks at the husband exactly. Haven't you watch twenty twenty or always the spouse and it's always about the money so mexico back to the house jake is. The detective blames jake. Glorious death does. He says he should've just called the police instead of like trying to run over there right. How probably like a mile. He's pretty brutal and he blames jake because you're right. If he had called the police they would have gotten there sooner. Presumably so he's feeling sorry for himself so he's back at the house and it's a mess. It's trashed wish. Plants were knocked over shrine everywhere. Shell the fridge is lying on the floor. I think there's a note carton. He's in the revolving bed drinking whisky watching porn. Is it a waterbed. I don't think so. I think it's just rotating okay. 'cause i thought they made sound effects that founder bad to spins quickly. Actually i just make me dizzy. Yeah he's watching porn. You can only see it for three quarters of the circle and can't during the porn we see about thirteen barebreast. I made a note could be duplicates. I don't know but there's thirteen so one single one single as jake is watching the porn he sees this actress named holly body. Do a dance. And he says i've seen that before right identical to the dance that gloria was doing which is weird. Did you think it was that unique that you would have noticed. It was the same. It wasn't all that elaborate or any. Thank god if he would have been watching who he thought. Was this gloria. Do the same dance for two nights. Now right it's twice. I guess it would be exact same exact same routine then. He sees it again in this phil again. He sees that this. Holly chick has a tattoo on her ass. Oh did he see that in the movie. Okay so he goes to the local video store. He goes to the local video store. The mom and pop video store and rent the film starring holly body. I believe it's called holly body does hollywood there. Holly does hollywood. Yeah something like that. Brings it home and you watch the dance again in the he fast forwards through it. He's not really interested. Did you catch any of those breasts or was that just know is pretty much the same as what he was watching earlier because i think what he was watching early was a commercial for this film. Okay you know what i mean. Yeah so pretty much looks look the same to me. But he freeze frames on shot of her tattoo on her ass. Yeah which is a holly. I just put that together. Just yeah a holiday makes sense so next we see jake. I think it's the next day. Yeah he just got the shower. He calls the production company that produces holly does hollywood. And as he's on the phone he finds out there doing auditions. i'm not sure that's why he was calling. But that's what he learned says he's listening right. Yeah there's an actor. They're complaining. he shouldn't have to wait because he's a real actor right. Not just what did he say. I can't remember a cock something not just aqap. Jock i think is what i said as an adult film place. Not just a something like that though stock cock other something. My it was something like that. He's a real actor. So anyway jake goes to the audition because they tell them they'll be doing auditions till six so he just jumps in the car. You reading a scene with the producer. Guy which i thought was funny. They're not acting. They're basically just reading reading a script. Yeah right they're not even trying to meet the script and says all right. Take your clothes off so get some pictures. The next we see this was weird. Frankie goes to hollywood more into like an mtv video right. We're frankie goes to hollywood guy singing relaxed. Don't do it. And then the x-ray it lists him. I think his name is holly shepherd the guy's name is holly shepherd and frankie goes to hollywood singing. His role listed on the x. Ray was the singing. Doorman will this man escorts j. jake as he's singing. He's coming into a club right. And so i wrote so. Is this a real club or are we. They've filming seen i. I didn't know if he was a hallucinating.


00:50:02 - 00:55:02

What was happening. But there's a lot of butlers chaps in the club wrote it must be a scene. That's what i wrote once. He goes into the bathroom. And we see holly into mirror then. He ended the bathroom and then the door closes. Then we see the camera crew in the mirror behind them so now like oh. This is a scene he's doing. He got hired a graphic scene. Yes he's kinda says the same line that the producer guy was reading with them earlier right though jake is doing a scene with holly body in a bathroom and all the while. He's doing holly body. He's having imaginations about gloria at the beach. Yes i told you. That's what it looked like. And they're basically reenacting the whole thing so was a bit odd so basically jake finishes and then a guy comes in and says. Where's the com shot. He says it like three times does me. Yeah so next see jake. He goes to see holly body in her dressing room and he's all dressed up now leather which. I assumed you like karen no. He was kind of cheesy looking his leather pants in his leather jacket in this flicked looks like he's trying to be a porn star. Sleazeball yeah like why would you think i would. Like a sleazeball. That's no leather. I know we talked about the loss loss. I don't like porno leather. Oh okay. I didn't realize that there was a difference. There's a difference if you ever need vice on that. Let me know and help. You spoke a so. Jake pretends to be a movie producer with all kinds of money. And he says he wants to have holly and film yeah. He talks her into ask your smile with his well. She goes through her criteria for doing films. And it's pretty funny. I didn't write them down but is this when they're at the bar go. Yeah okay so they go to a bar or a club or something in there having drinks talking about their business proposition. Mrs when she goes through all her demands what she won't do in what she wants minimum and he asks her if she's done any special work yes and then. She says she has a routine. That is a ten on the peter meter. Which is her dance that she does right and he says i've seen it a times. Does and then he compliments her acting inner her smile and she seems to like that. Holly body is played by melanie. Griffith's right which have we said that yet. I don't think we have. But yes it is she is. This is one of her first fills. She's young she's very good and it will get there later. Well she plays she always kinda plays type but she's very good at playing that type you know people don't think she's smart but she is that kind of thing so then they're exiting the bar and they run into an actress who jake has worked with in the past and of course she asked. Hey are you working. You have anything released for me or anything and holly thinks she's an adult film actress. Because that's how jake is presented himself. Yeah she's surprises. She doesn't know her gives earthen name and number of a producer and says called him and tell him you know me and ask her if she has any aversion to working with women girls. I think she said she says now acting is acting. Holly says well. I i could never get into it. That was kind of a funny part. I thought he was gonna get busted for a minute. I mean i've seen it before but it's been since nineteen eighty five softens as soon as you say nineteen. It's a long time. So jake takes holly to the house. He's watching so it does look like he's got a lot of money takes his house. You know yes. She's convinced she the bed. Yeah yeah and then this is when jake comes clean and tells her he is not a producer and she doesn't believe him at first 'cause he's in this expensive house and all this shit but yeah he's he totally does come clean. He's not a producer not interested in making films each says he saw her in the house. He wants to know she was the one dancing in the house and he tries to find out who hired her. And then sam calls well. He says he thinks one of his friends is pulled a joke on a practical joke on him right and she says she never met the guy it was just a phone call and then a corier delivered the money and away and whatever was needed right keycard so then sam calls and then jake ask holly to listen in to the phone. And if that's the same guy who hired her and holly confirm said was indeed sam who hired her so then jake tries to explain. Hollywood has happened. You know about the murder and everything. But i'm wondering at this point.


00:55:02 - 01:00:08

Gloria lives in that house. How did holly get in there and do all this. I mean did somebody keep gloria busy or wouldn't you notice maybe someone was in your house. And why wasn't the dog an issue. And i don't know it just questions about the dog later as well so well. Yeah obviously but i don't know did i miss something. That glory is not never home until a certain time. Or don't you know. It seems kind of risky. Then we see the sam as watching them from inaugurals and sam sees jake explaining things to holly the windows so he knows that he knows right well or thanks only but she doesn't believe jake he does not know so they fight about it and she kicks him and leaves kicking of the shins in this movie. He didn't get a go unconscious. State upright so. I don't know yeah. He calls the police. Holly is leaving. And jake explains everything to the detective. And he explains that. Glorious husband and sam are the same person well he thinks they are and holly has to go down about one thousand stairs and she's bitching all the way to well. Yeah i would be too. She's trying to hitchhike home. She's bitching at the cars driving. Buyer to as i would be too hitchhiking. Witnesses car crash right to cars comes speeding by her and they crash. It looked like to porsches was to portions or maybe it was. Then holly is picked up by someone. In a ford bronco satellite repairman. She stands in front of him and demands of the stop right so i don't know if he would have stopped but he did. He had to. So then. Jake gibbs gets in his car. He's going to drive down to the police station but he finds that the road is blocked by the police due to the crash right. Yeah but he does see holly in the ford bronco. A couple of cars ahead of them. We see the shadow of guy with a tire iron and kind of smack zorin ahead with it right. And she's unconscious she goes county he disappears. Yeah so that's like four unconscious people. So far and jake jumps out of his car and tries to go after them but a police officer stops him. Jake eventually assaults the police officer and runs away and the bronco drives away as well. So i think he ignores the police blockade is that what he's doing. I guess he just drove through. And everybody goes to the reservoir. Next thing we see is a sign that says danger reservoir. No trespassing like the gate was open. He drove in then. Someone closed the gate behind them. That was strange anyway. That's what happens. So jake cascales acosta jump scale the fence right. Yeah so we see the satellite repair guy. Digging a grave for holly. Who is the detective cause of indian. So i guess that's what j called him to the detective as well described him as an indian. He kind of look indian. I didn't get that like are they. Like an american indian. Yeah like an american indian long black hair in a ponytail and we'll just leave it as the creepy guy or whatever so jake climbs over a pipe and he reaches the bronco heaping again. He's just watching. Guy creates and peeps all the time. He's watching from a distance. I did make a note that the bronco has a satellite dish Sign on it. Like he's the repairman. Yes then he sees the satellite repair guy. Put holly in the whole. He's digging and start to fill it in with. They both hear a growls. Yep i know exactly what was going on and turns out that. Glorious dog is in the bronco and he's not happy. It sam's dog. i think i think it's glorious. Dog were married. Yes but i think it's glorious though you do. Yeah is when they separated. She got the dog apparently the dog. Oh mostly gone now. But the dog wasn't there all those other times. I guess you read it. Was there that one time. Maybe they share custody. I don't know. Jake sneaks over to the grave and looks in and ask holly if she's okay then. The repair guy reaches up and grabs him from the grave imposing man and jake and the guy they kinda like scuffle. They're holding onto each other and jacobs tearing at the repair man's face and then he finds out it's mask yet. It's sam sam. But jake not freaking out while they're fighting because it's pretty claustrophobic in there. It's a tiny little he he's on adrenaline. He doesn't realize where he is yet but as soon as he does he freezes. Same puts jake in the grave right next to holly insane begins to fill the hole in with dirt and he starts talking about.


01:00:08 - 01:05:02

You know. I had this all planned out. You were the witness yet. His part they're actors. You're seventy yes. I'm going to play the hero. He's going to give you a second take right but soften tells them to act. You've got to act. Sam tells him. And so jake remembers his scene in the movie in the back to the first scene we saw of him in the coffin when he's in his leathers now not the vampire cost him. So you know it's back. Yeah this time. Jake crawls back into the coffin and says let's do it. Yeah he remembers. He'll get fired if he doesn't get the shot. So he's like he's going to get the shot and he does. So jake kind of comes to from against his mojo blaster phobic fit. He's having knee grabs the shovel that same as using the film with they're posing himself out of the whole even though same. Let go shovel. But whatever same says don't be so dramatic and then the dog burst through the window of the bronco which is ridiculous right. That's right i wrote. Which would never happen is my next line is at safety glass. For one thing. It was like a plane a glass. And you're right. It was like sugar. 'cause it was there's no way even though the the dog runs and jumps on sam pushing him into the reservoir well so sam yells to the dog kill yes sita's sweaty and then jake ducks and the dog jumps in instead of hitting jake he had sam and they fall into the reservoir into the water and i made a note. The dog is okay. I kind of think the dog was going after sam. I think it was glorious dog in he going after sam but then i wrote well. Why didn't he attack him in the bronco. He was in the bronco the whole time. Maybe i don't know. I think it's probably dog. And kinda just just because jake docked door got sam. They went in together. It makes more sense. I guess so next. Holly wakes up. And she's still doesn't trust jake necrophiliac. Yeah she's confused. She missed all that action. She doesn't know what's happening. He tries to help out the grave but she refuses. She won't get out next. We cut to the shower. Scene from vampire's kiss when jake went to argue with the director. That's the scene. They were shooting. And then we see credits. And then we see like scenes after or during the credits between the credits. And jake has been rehired. And he's got his rollback and he's but he's acting in the shower scene with an actress and they need to take that actress out to a body double in for her. So they say bring in the body double so they like measure. Where move your hand marker where his hand is. Don't move it jake ask. Hey what how. How was my teeth flashing. Sipowicz says it's the best teeth flash. I've ever seen babe. I'm so glad i fired. That other guy right so part was made for you. Which is kinda funny. Well he looks ridiculous in the makeup twisted sister almost but so then the body double comes in and we have two more bare breast karen. Although i'm not sure these two are natural border line. I thought it was gonna be hawley but but we do see holly watching the shoot she. Is there watching. And she tells the original actress. You're going to get so many dates after this. I presume that means they're together. I presume to his so as well and we see credits. As jake fondles the body doubles breasts and he bites her on the neck and blood spills all over them. There's a lot of breast shots there at the end and that is basically the end. I have questions so we have total of nineteen breast karen bureau wondering nineteen. I wasn't anything i think. We had twenty five. I think we said twenty five in command. That was pretty low. Estimate though these were more gratuitous i think wicker man were those were pagan rituals thing. This was. do you want to cover your questions. Do you do on a cover which you pleasantly surprised by. Well i just want to know what happened to the dog. And what happened to sam. Are they dead or is that my sequel. Maybe it's your sequel. I don't know because they just show them go underwater and then was obviously a fake dog. Too i kind of think they're dead. Yes i believe they are dead. Well you never know if it's true horror film.


01:05:02 - 01:10:00

That doesn't mean anything. So a little bit about. Brian depalma k. You directed scarface and this was the first film. He directed right after that. Have you ever seen scarface. i have not. I've seen parts of it. But i've heard it's a good film heard. It's it's an violent right. It's extremely violent and al pacino. Yes okay hello to my little friend capone. Yeah bashes guy headed in with a baseball bat. So on and so forth but the motion pictures rating association or wherever the hell it is gave him an x rating on scarface originally. So he had to like cut some stuff out. Wow and that fifty malls. Hey so this was a next phil. And his whole thing was they. They want they want to see. What an x ray film is. This is what an x ray to fell should so he did this though. He wanted to get an x rating with this. It was purpose right here. A stick as or something this didn't get an x-rated did it originally did and they made him take head to take stuff out to get an hour did. Nc seventeen exist back then. I don't think so now. This whole like theme for this film. This film is basically. Brian depalma pretending he's alfred hitchcock. He wanted to do a alfred hitchcock thriller and this is what he did him. And this guy who wrote the screenplay. I can see that he wanted. This is kind of like an ode to rear window and vertigo right. Yes and vertigo. Yeah 'cause they the guy that has vertigo and can't go up the tower and all that stuff direct. I mean i can see that but it doesn't have the same finesse. Pursue doesn't yeah it's not. It's my guess that that just shows how earlier is good. Has anything hitchcock. Did it shows you how hard that is right. That's what he was trying to do because he's not a terrible director and he if this is him trying to be hitchcock you can see how how difficult it is to be hitchcock. I mean when we were joking that we could remake edwardsville. We probably could but we could never remake from outer space yet. We could never remake psycho or could remake it but it wouldn't be as good. Well no it'd be terrible compared to playing. Well yes what we were saying. Oh on a lower budget and better. Yes the him and the other guy who wrote the screenplay they screened rear window and vertigo and discussed the narratives that hitchcock used for both that why they picked up with. Is that why they picked melanie. Griffith don't know because her mom is tippy hendrick. Oh is she well. He originally in the porno film part. Right those are real porno actors actresses right okay and he originally cast one of them to play the part amount aggressiveness and then he changed his mind in used melanie griffith. 'cause you needed no offense and this may be the wrong term but a real actress he says i discovered that using a real person to play fictional counterpart doesn't necessarily make the character more real. Is that a nice way of saying sh- couldn't really act. I don't know if it was saying that. I couldn't hire a porn actress to play a porn actress. I needed a real actress to play porn. actress You know what i mean. So let's let's go to anything. You were pleasantly surprised. Well it's hard to say. Because i really didn't know what to expect. I actually had confused this. When you first told said body double i thought it was gonna be like body snatchers or something. So i was completely unprepared for this movie because i was expecting something different but i think the acting was pretty good overall. It was pretty. I wasn't disappointed by it. I thought you know. Think the guy who played shake overacted times bill maher who have the last forty years. Whatever but i don't know what you. I don't know what it's like to have claustrophobia like that don't either. I don't like high places and start on either. But i don't really freeze but i could see you know a panic attack. You can do that. I guess i dunno are especially think melanie griffith was great in misfield to why is that you just was. She was good. I think she stole it. You know what i mean. She was good well. She definitely played the part. And i'm sure you know where she was very confident. In being a porn star she just was very casual and confident that this is what i do. And i'm good at it.


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And you know these are my parameters and this is what i will do and what i won't do sushi exuded. You believed she was the character. And here's what mony griffiths said about playing the character. She says. I think i gave her a great amount of intelligence. I used to think. I didn't want to do more nymphet rolls but now i think i can bring a lot of life to that kind of character like i said. She plays a lot of roles where her intelligence is underestimated. And then she'd come into place the dumb blonde you think she's a dome bond but she's really not right right. Is that a lot. And she's she plays it well. It's believable with her. You could see her on either end of the spectrum of intelligence she can do either and she does them well. I always liked her. I mean didn't see every one of her movies or anything but any movie. I've seen with her in it. I've liked her. I think she's good for the most part i do but i really like us. We won't we won't say why she's really good. This why you liked her smile. She's now i know she is good. I'm just kidding. I'm just saying what he said. She did bring intelligence to it. I think she did i. I agree seem like a girl wouldn't take any shit either. You know street smarts right but like i said she'd confidence she knew what she would do. And what you wouldn't do. And she was comfortable with her role right anything. You were very disappointed in karen. I don't know if it was the acting or the writing or the directing like scenes where he was following her in the shining person wrote and directed it. But i'm saying like the scene like her being followed in the shopping mall way too. Close you know just so obvious. And then the weird thing on the beach where i thought it was a daydream. Or something. I don't know. I think it was just lacking a little finesse in something. I can't quite put my finger on but you know the dog jumping through the window. The dose should have just been open. You know just little things. That seemed silly. Yeah unbelievable plot holes. I think just misdirection or miss something but a male director might not know that following a female. That close is going to set off all kinds of trigger warnings. You know what i mean like. You wouldn't know that unless you you live that i would think the actor would say like the woman being followed would say he's way too close to me but maybe she did and they didn't listen. We should and maybe it's too hard to get that in in the shot or something. I don't know maybe so plot holes i'll go with. I would think deborah shelton would've said. Yeah because i'm sure she gets followed all the time. He's close. I would have went into the security station. Is one of those voices. Astor keeper voices. So what about you. what did you like. I said i thought mona griff crushed it. That's true disappointed in anything. I always love me. Some deborah shelton's. That's not disappointing. I liked seeing sipowicz again. I haven't seen him awhile. I like him and his friends so some things. I was disappointed. I don't know like. I said i've seen it right but when i saw this time and i say i don't know if it's because i've seen it before but that guy in the house look like that sam guy wearing glasses and a hat to me. The indian the gleich guy wearing a fake chest. Piece of a mask to me. I mean yeah it must have been because you've seen him before because you kind of knew what to look for. But it's been like but to see if i watched it again thirty forty years right so if i watched it again i would know now that the guy coming out of the studio was j. when i didn't know that because he wasn't all in makeup and i say no but the whole point was he was leaving early earlier than intended so he could catch his girlfriend and all that but i had no idea i missed that completely but if i ever watched it again i would know exactly who it was. Actually speaking amount mountie griffith she was nominated for a golden globe. A national society of film critics award a new york films critic award. She was nominated three times for awards for this film for best supporting actress. Yeah you're right. I think she stole it. I mean there are script holes like you said. The dog went to break through the glass. Had he's just kind of a creamy always saw. We only saw the dog convenient for the dodgers scene. But the whole thing is this jake's a creep. I mean they i know they're making him out to be the nice guy but he's he's a paper. He's a stalker. He takes her old underwear.


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I mean he's basically by the hand by salmon saying here come look at this pizza discredit does it does it all. Nobody told him to take the underwear. Nobody told him to stalk her he could have called the police. He stalked her instead. He followed her yeah. I think he had good intentions of yes. They make him have good intentions. But he's a creepy guy from a woman's perspective. I'm just going to say he's creepy. I wouldn't trust a guy who was stalking me. I can see that. And if she knew he took her underwear out of the garbage. She'd be more freaked out. Yes i'm sure she would i. Would someone had your underwear. That would be something some women following you with your old underwear in her pocket as dedication right there. After watching you put on new underwear. Think about that. How how weird is that. I guess especially as a man being stalked by a woman you could probably fighter off but as a woman v stopped by a man you're at a disadvantage can still fighting off but well apparently if you kick him just right. He'll go a cautious. Jake had no. Ill will intended toward her. I know i know i know i get. Some girl was bringing your old underwear out the garbage and stalking you up telling you you wouldn't trust her anyway. How many cocktails take you to get through this film. Well i didn't hate this film. But i don't think it's really horror it's not but it's it's as much horror as psycho is. If you think about it. I guess but psycho had a dead mother. Lots of feelings He killed a lot of people You know this was kind of just a husband. It's a hitchcock thriller but trying to kill his wife and i mean there was the drill. That part was kind of horror. But otherwise i don't know three. I'm leaning towards four. But i'll go with three. I didn't i didn't not like it. I'll go three. I mean it's pretty average. I mean i think better the first time i saw it. You know what i mean. Yeah well there so many times. I know it you can see like that would never happen. You know there's like start. Seal the puddles so i think it just made me uncomfortable. And maybe it's just a different era that it's acceptable for this guy to do and i don't mean to harp on it but i'm saying for this guy to do all this stuff to be a voyeur. It's never acceptable. But i think it's less acceptable now. At least i hope it is the these are things that shouldn't be happening. You know you shouldn't be aiming your telescope at someone's house you know especially well. I thought at the top. You know a single woman by herself. I think it's i don't know i just thought the whole thing was kinda achey but i think it's a different era and i think watching it in one thousand nine hundred four would be a lot different experience than proving it now. I agree. I think it would have freaked me out a lot more in nineteen eighty-four because i would have thought i would have started closing my blinds all the time. Not that i do that dance or anything but you do that. Dance in the hotel. Well yeah but that's when no one you can only hear me then. You can't see me agree three cocktails. What about our cocktail. Where my cocktail. I liked it. I think it's good for. It would be better if i strained better. Well yeah it's like the mo- hito sometimes we'll have a lot of in it. But i really like basil all berry. Yeah the grape. I don't know why it needs to be there. I'll get the great at all the strawberry strawberries. Basil and i might add a little more sugar just because i would like that. I don't know why. It's called blair. But i think it's very pleasant sunday afternoon in the summer evening. Drink after you after. You did your thirsty work. It's very submarine refreshing almost like lemonade but a strawberry drink. I agree anything. We learned today care a lot about cars. We always learn about cars. I think don't we don't know if we learned anything else these times. I'm not gonna do that. There wasn't a lot to learn not to if you're going to stock someone don't follow too closely.


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I did The komo sphere. That's the name of the house. Oh really yeah. Chemist fear house loans it. Let's see it was built. It designs on by john lautner in one thousand nine hundred sixty the encyclopedia britannica once called it. The most modern home built in the world. How big is it. Does it say square footage. It's around two thousand two hundred square feet of living space. It looks a lot smaller than that. It's just off. It's in the hollywood hills just off mulholland drive. I wonder scarce how crazy it just occurred to me. It must be used in a lot of movies. Because i just watched. Charlie's angels the one with drew barrymore in it and i think she flies out the window of the house. That looks like i wonder if it's the same one i don't like directly inspired a house in the two thousand charlie's angels movie but that out the house fired it. I just watched that the other night. When i couldn't sleep and i it just occurred to me that it looked like that. Yeah it has been in other. Tv shows like the outer limits. There's something well we learned about the pup and what was it called. The pup entail the or what was the hot dog place. You of the pop. Yeah you said that. low the pump. That said landmark. We learned about that apparently is currently not open but someone is trying to refurbished and reopened it so you know quite a few things actually your whole hitchcock connection. Look back home. I guess yeah. I can see that but like i said that. Just shows you how hard it would be. Nobody's hitchcock but hitchcock because you don't think that directing would be that difficult right you have a script you get the actors to do it. You think you're done but there's finesse to it. obviously that i would not have so karen. I believe the next film was dirt. Choice is it is not. it is letter. We're going to watch. We're going to watch fright night. The nineteen eighty five film. Now why like why. Karen would you pick that movie because we love birthdays. Yes and it's roddy mcdowell birthday on september seventeenth which is just a couple of days after the frightening episode comes out. He'll be thrilled while he's not with us anymore do we. Do you have a drink for film cared we do. It's called the vampire bite vampire by hanley note. Man pyre bite gonna aid vodka. Got it seven up. I can get that. And a couple of drops of it says kool-aid tropical punch flavor enhancer. But i think any of those drink drops. The red coloring will work now crystal light or me. Oh yeah. I think i have some yeah. I think it's just really to give it mean it'll give it a touch of flavor seven up with red colouring it'll give it a hint of flavor it will but it's more the color and we'll line it with some corn syrup and red food color get droopy golan. We'll try well if only we needed to muddle put. No i use honey. Red food coloring. I did pretty well with that one. You can do that. i think they use corn syrup. Mostly because it doesn't have a taste honey does have a little bit of a taste. It would be fun. You need to thank you know i was thinking about it and i never have anyone to thank but i'm going to thank everyone who has left us a review on apple podcasts. Yes thank you. We appreciate your support we do and we can't really grow the podcast without though so if you could take them in do that we would really appreciate it. Yes i would be awesome. What about you. i just need to thank verse. Thirteen our favorite band for letting us use their music into podcast. It really does make it better. It was again there if it was linked in bouts. Give him some love. And i would also like to thank the bbc sound effect library. Get all the buzzers. When karen is wrong about the cost of cars he should make those up. Because there's so many of them. Maybe i should pick some longer.


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